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The Welcome to the Andy Staples show. Happy Labor Day. Today we're going to talk about a labor of love because we've got a guy on the show who I've wanted to have on for a long time because he did one of the coolest football things that you saw this year. And it actually goes back a couple of years. And I wanted to get him to talk about it because

if you listened last week, you heard me and Max Olson raving about the RPPO and we have some

definite ideas about the game of football and some innovations. But this is a guy who actually

innovated within the game of football. Sam Schwartzstein, former Stanford Offensive lineman, the guy who created the XFL's rules.

He created the XFL kickoff, which if you listen here and read my stuff, you know it's one of my favorite football innovations of the last 20 years.

So, Sam, how you doing?

Good. It's a pleasure to be on ass. I'm excited

to finally get to be on ass. It's been a dream for me to be on ass. You're actually getting some

ass right now, and that's good. I mean, it's really a dream of everyone's, and when we finally

achieve it, you know, it's special. And we don't always tell everybody right away, but those closest

to it, I'm sure, I'm sure you're going to tell right after us. Every listener is not one of my

closest friends. So yes, of course. That's exactly right. Exactly right. So, Sam, I wanted to start

off by just encouraging everyone if they haven't read it yet.

Go to your Twitter feed and read the thread that you started the day the XFL stopped operating.

And it's Schwartzstein S, at Schwartzstein S on Twitter, because you go through the whole process of getting hired by Oliver Luck and then basically being told what

the job is and then how you came up with all these different rules and how you tested them

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