Special Guest Ryan Callaghan: Public Lands Under Fire

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers Podcast & Blast with Hal Herring

Zack Williams

Outdoors, Wilderness, Sports, Fishing, Outdoor, Hunting, Sports & Recreation

4.6 • 853 Ratings

🗓️ 20 June 2025

⏱️ 87 minutes

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Summary

The news keeps getting worse: over 250 million acres of our public lands potentially up for sale and 3 million or more likely carved out. While this has been a goal, and a dream, of many radical politicians for the past fifty years, until now it has only been whispered, dog-whistled, lied about, and obscured. Now, their plan is out in the open.

The line is drawn in the sand. The gauntlet has been thrown down. The land grabbers have made their play.

How will we respond? How do we, the Americans who know and love and depend upon these lands, stop this utterly shameless theft of our national assets?

MeatEater Director of Conservation and Backcountry Hunters & Anglers North American Board Chair Ryan Callaghan joins Hal as they discuss what is happening, what’s at stake, and how we – all of us American patriots together -- are going to stop this vandalism and theft of the treasures of our nation. Listen. Learn. Then Take Action.

And Fuel the Fight with our United We Stand for Public Lands campaign

This episode is a special Dual Release with MeatEater for Cal's Week In Review.

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0:00.0	You can't tell me that the Daniel Boone and the Mark Twain National Forests like in Missouri.
0:06.6	We're going to be sitting back being like, can you believe the condos?
0:10.0	Yeah.
0:10.6	Why are we just letting it sit there?
0:13.0	Yeah, I can have the suite of VRBOs out there.
0:16.0	That's right.
0:16.9	But part of my contract with my country is that I have these public lands.
0:24.6	It's what Teddy Roosevelt said.
0:26.7	He said, it has to work on some level for all of us in order for it to work on any level for any of us.
0:34.9	And then you can reach out to members of these committees.
0:39.7	And right now, you know, Steve Daines here in Montana, you've got to call that office.
0:46.1	And if you call the first time, say, hey, this is where I'm from.
0:49.4	I love public lands.
0:50.8	Please stand up to Mike Lee and tell him not to sell this stuff.
0:57.9	Hey, everybody, it's Hal Herring, Backcountry Hunters and Anglers podcast and blast. Thanks for
1:03.4	being here. Hey, I am proud to announce we have a new sponsor for our podcast, and that is
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1:11.6	If you are involved in hunting and shooting or both, you are probably looking at owning or dreaming of owning a silencer suppressor, the same thing for your firearm.
1:25.3	I've got my first one a couple years ago.
1:28.1	It's been a complete game changer for me.
1:30.6	I'm just looking at another one right now for another rifle.
1:34.7	I will never go back to where I was.
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