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Welcome back to the Packer Day podcast. I'm your host, Andy Herman. You can follow me on Twitter at Andy Herman NFL. It is Friday. You know what that means. It is a Mike Wall Friday. And joining me, of course, is the one and only Mike Wall. You can follow him on Twitter at Mike Wall 68. Mike, what is good and how the heck is Austin, Texas? warm it's warm for the first first time in a couple days. Good to see, Andy. Yeah, we were getting a little bit of a warm front after a two-week cold front. It was rainy and miserable. So I was just telling you off air, put the shorts back on again. I know the wife really likes that. Was there ever an inkling when you came to Green Bay, Wisconsin, that Green Bay could have been your

forever home?

You know, it's interesting.

Not when I first got there because I was a West Coast kid.

And then we, you know, my wife and I, after we spent one off season there and it was negative

19 every day.

And so that was, that was, one was enough.

And then we moved to, we lived in Vegas in the off season for like five years.

And I, I, yeah, we absolutely loved it and we got to train out there.

And that whole, like, you know, that whole dichotomy of being able to govern play in Green Bay, Wisconsin, but then go, like, just put all your focus, energy and effort in somewhere else training as hard as you can to get ready. Like, I really love that system. But I will say this, as we've got older and we had kids, if for some reason I was ever called back to Green Bay, Wisconsin, we would have been very, very happy to go. We really liked it there.

Yeah, it's a really nice town. It is really freaking cold, and I am very jealous of your Austin, Texas weather. I can promise you that. We have a lot to go over. I want to talk a lot today about offensive line, because I think there's some really fun stuff to discuss. but before we jump into everything, I just want to get your overall takeaway, you know,

takeaways from Packers Bears. Was this, I kind of took it away and not to be a grinch here, but I kind of took it as a bad team that beat a worst team. There were certainly some positive takeaways, but what were your overall gut reactions from that game? I would echo your sentiment for sure. That was a bad game. It was always good to get a win. And it's very, like, it's very, very hard to win in the National Football League. I mean, that's cliche, but it is very hard to win in the National Football League. If you watch this, I'll go back and I'll watch the tape, and you'll watch all the offense, and then you'll watch all the defense separately.

And if you just took out the touchdown play,

like you took out both of Christian Washington's touchdown plays,

and even if you took out the Justin Fields touchdown plays,

you'd go, oh, the Bears beat us handling.

It didn't look like much of a game until, you know, towards the end, obviously.

And it's, it's interesting. You know, Andy, what's been most interesting about this season,

and this is something I'm just, you know, as I jot down notes for our show, just in general,

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