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Lots up everybody.

Welcome back to the Pack of Day podcast. I'm your host, Andy Herman. You can follow me on Twitter at Andy Herman NFL. We are a day later this week, but the Packers are also a day later this week playing on Monday. So I am still incredibly excited to be talking with Mike Wall on this Friday as we talk Saturday as you are watching this. Mike, it has been a couple weeks since the Packers

have played. We're getting ready for Packers Rams. We've got a couple interesting topics to discuss,

but to kick things off, how the heck are you doing? Just happy to talk to you on this Friday

afternoon, Andy. I hope you're doing well. Doing great. The other big question is, do you have all your holiday shopping

done? No, but I'm a big Amazon guy. I'll probably take, so I've got everything that I need

to get on Amazon now and I'll probably take the family. There's like a little district shopping

area here. I probably take them this weekend and get some last minute things. But I'm a big Amazon guy. So assuming everything gets here on time with Amazon, which they're usually pretty good about it. I feel good that I'll hit all the deadlines I need to hit. Same here. That's kind of exactly where I'm at. The little before Christmas on Amazon is a lifesaver. So that's been huge. All right, we've got a lot to talk about, though.

I want to start off with an article that was published on Friday on the athletic.

Kaelin Kaler wrote an article that basically discussed how it's difficult for rookie receivers

to come in and play within this Packers offense or specifically kind of under Aaron Rogers.

I want to actually go back to a couple years ago, an article that Ty Dunn wrote, it was an MBS article, but one of the pieces or quotes that was in that article, this was from MBS said, quote, there are two separate playbooks. There's the one we get written down, and then there's the one that Aaron has. It's not an easy thing to come in and play right away.

So that was a couple years ago, MVS in an article from Ty Dunn.

And this article from Kalin Kaler, this is from Sam Wackens, now a more better and

wide receiver, obviously.

He says, quote, there are two offenses in one at play in Green Bay.

Matt LaFleflor's scheme and all the tiny details Rogers wants executed to perfection,

whether it's an angle, yardage, eye, head, or tempo.

So there's a few things I want to get into in this article,

but I kind of want to start with those two things that have now been said in separate articles

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