You're going to be. So, The Hello, I'm Ryan Stitt and welcome back to the history of ancient Greece.

We are taking a break from our regularly scheduled programming for another special guest episode today.

This is the fifth episode in a series where I converse with classicists about either books or articles

that they have published, their current research interests, or just unique classes and topics

that they are teaching and exploring further.

In today's special guest episode, I'm joined by Dr.

Johanna Hanick, Associate Professor of Classics at Brown University in Providence, Rhode Island.

Her primary teaching and research areas focus on various aspects of Greek

antiquity and its legacy, but she is especially interested in classical Athens,

particularly the cultural life of the city's fourth century BC, as well as the strange relationships

between modern politics and the ancient past.

She is active in Brown's program in Modern Greek Studies and serves on the editorial boards of the Journal of Modern Greek Studies and

Idalon.

She is the author and editor of a number of books and articles, including like Hergen

Athens and the making of classical tragedy, creative lives in classical

antiquity, poets artists and biography, and the classical debt, Greek antiquity in an era

of austerity, which explores how Western fantasies of classical antiquity have created a particularly

fraught relationship between the European West and the country of Greece, especially in the context

of Greece's recent tale of two crises.

Her most recent book though, How to Think About War, an Ancient Guide to Foreign Policy,

will be the topic of today's conversation.

Why do nations go to war? the topic of today's conversation.

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