20 minutes a day, 365 days a year.

This is the Pack a Day podcast.

What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to this Saturday edition of the Pack of Day podcast.

I'm your host, Andy Herman. You can follow me on Twitter at Andy Herman NFL. Before we get to our guest,

as always a huge shout out to our two Hall of Fame members, Most Hated Minnesota and Most Hated Minnesota and PJ Win.

That being said, I am joined by one of my all-time favorite guests, the one and only Ben Fennell. I had to chat with him prior to getting into the regular season. You can follow him on Twitter at Ben Fennell underscore NFL. Ben, how the heck of you, Ben? I'm doing great sitting here on the cusp of the full week one slate. Obviously, Thursday night just happened and I feel like a horse in the starting block.

Just ready to watch some games, travel to games, watch new film. It's an exciting time. You know, it's like

a Christmas morning almost for all of us NFL addicts for lack of better word.

It is. We'll be breaking down the film on Mondays. And, you know, obviously we got a little bit of a taste of everything last night with Chiefs Lions, a fun Lions win, a sort of weird, bizarreo chiefs loss. But Ben, I'd be remiss to ask before we jump into football, I know you're a big golf guy. How did the summer golf game go? Is it everything you wanted it to be? And are you ready to now abandon it a little bit for the

rigors of a regular season? Great question. Great personal update. So I moved from suburbia of

South Jersey to Philadelphia last summer and unfortunately canceled my golf membership. So while I

did golf a little bit this summer, not nearly as much and as regularly as I used to. I still got out, you know, 15, 20 times or so.

The game really never got over the hill into that consistent 70s.

I think I fired a couple 80s and 81s.

Then the game really tanked.

But what split my time this summer is I really got into disc golf.

Okay.

So my buddy up in the Poconos started a course and I'm a golfer.

I get the whole competitive nature of it, almost the pain of it, that it's such a simple

A to B sport, just throw this object to B. It's very frustrating, but it's the same type of addiction as golf. So I've had fun doing that. And it's a great crowd. There's a lot of people out there with their dogs and drinking beers and just hiking through the woods. So that's kind of my vibe anyway. So I've been splitting a little bit of the actual golf with disc golf, but it's week one here, Andy. All that's getting put away for the winter. I got a

busy season ahead. I couldn't imagine I'm going to hit a ball or throw a disc in the next four

months. Yeah, I think that's probably understandable. We've got a couple nice courses here in Green Bay for

...