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Origin Story

Special: Gary Lineker, Free Speech and the Nazis

Origin Story

Podmasters

Society & Culture, History, News, News Commentary

4.7811 Ratings

🗓️ 15 March 2023

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

A between-seasons special: The Lineker Affair didn’t just expose the BBC’s fear of the Government. It triggered a flood of bad takes on whether it’s ever permissible to compare contemporary politics to 1930s Germany; BBC employees’ rights to speak their minds; the limits of Twitter; and even whether the Nazis were in fact left-wing. Spoiler: they weren’t. Seasoned spotters of bad faith arguments Dorian Lynskey and Ian Dunt examine a gala week of political nonsense, obfuscation, straw-manning and plain old bullshit. Written and presented by Dorian Lynskey and Ian Dunt. Audio production and music by Jade Bailey. Logo art by Mischa Welsh. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Origin Story is a Podmasters production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, welcome to a special between season bonus episode of origin story.

0:14.4

It's hot off the presses because we're going to be talking about something topical

0:17.6

which chimes with a lot of what we've been discussing in previous episodes.

0:21.6

It's what surprisingly nobody seems to be calling Linneker Gate.

0:25.6

I'm Dorian Linsky, author of 33 Revolutions per Minute and the Ministry of Truth.

0:30.6

My name is Ian Dunst. I'm a columnist with the eye newspaper and I'm the author of how Westminster works and why it doesn't.

0:36.6

So, Ian, what is Gary laid on a platter for us in origin story terms?

0:42.9

We got delivered an awful lot of origin story over the last seven days because we didn't just get delivered fascism.

0:48.9

We also got free speech.

0:50.6

So we got two for the price of one.

0:51.9

Right.

0:52.4

At that point, I think it became irresistible.

0:54.0

And even within fascism, you know, kind of two, I think, distinct arguments going on.

1:00.2

And I was very gratified to see sometimes on Twitter that I was looped into somebody sending

1:05.4

somebody else our fascism episode and going, listen to this.

1:09.5

This clarifies this. I don't think Peter Hitchens listen to this. This clarifies this.

1:11.9

I don't think Peter Hitchens, uh, listen to it.

1:14.5

Do you not?

1:15.0

He's somehow suspect, but he wasn't interested.

1:16.8

I mean, he's normally like a, a groovy, overmited guy.

1:19.5

He doesn't mind admitting when he was mistaken.

1:22.2

Uh, but maybe he was just having a bad week.

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