We are here. We take off the gas masks and we are ready for some hard-hitting podcasting.

Once again, and we will not be hitting each other at any point during this podcast.

Here I am back with a woman who would never make me do push-ups. Jenny, how are you?

I'm great. I would absolutely never make anyone do push-ups.

We'll get into it. You could tell the pain that he felt making people do push-ups.

No, Rob, you said we're not going to punch each other. I was coming into this being like,

we have been on the same team this entire time.

We've been podcasting through this journey together and the time has come that we have to fight each other.

I thought that was what we're doing today. This is kind of awkward. I thought I was going to punch you.

Jenny, this is the world's toughest test coming back for another recap here of this show.

Because I take no pleasure in watching this show. I'm here for the podcast.

I'm here for the Millie gang. I'm here to serve my country and talk about those special forces

and serve your country and talk about the special forces world's toughest test.

But I get no pleasure out of this other than talking to you.

Because for me, this is especially difficult.

And I have a unique experience with this show that maybe not all of the viewers have

where that I talked about this with Shannon Gus this week after I recap week two of Australian survivor.

There was conversation about what is a hero.

And it was sort of determined.

Shannon Gus said, you know, the right answer to that question of what is a hero is a hero is anybody that you look up to.

And so for me, very clearly, one of my great heroes of my life is a cast member of special forces world's toughest test.

And since...

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