You're listening to a Bill Bennett podcast special feature. It's a conversation with

Charles Koch. He's the chairman and CEO of Koch Industries. This episode is part

seven of our eight-part conversation where we discuss the virtuous cycle.

Last week Charles stated that in his view real education is three-dimensional.

That's where we'll pick up this week as Charles explains what those dimensions are. Here's Charles.

Real education is three-dimensional and that starts with understanding what your gifts are, what

your aptitudes are, and what you can have a passion for and then developing those.

So you need an education system that exposes you to a lot of different things that you try and find what you're

good at and what gives you passion and so you enjoy doing it and you're fulfilled because you're successful doing it.

And then the, so it's three dimensional.

And so the second dimension then is, as you say, you learn to read, you learn to do math, so you learn to read you learn to do math so you learn various principles

theories facts and values

that enable you to apply your inadability or the skills you're developing from

your inad abilities to contribute and so that's the third dimension. Then you put all that together and

learn to apply it and that requires experimentation and trial and error for every

person to find the best opportunity for their

particular aptitudes and skills and passions that will enable them to be

successful by creating value for others. So that's my educational philosophy. I'd be interested

in hearing how yours would differ from that, Bill.

Sure. Not much. I would just expand on it, but let me ask you this and then I'll talk for a minute.

You think we are, I believe we are, naturally inquisitive, right?

Right.

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