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Welcome to another podcast from insidecarolina.com, the independent voice of unc sports.

Brought to you by johnny t-shirt.com, the go-to provider for all your tarheel gear.

I'm your host Tommy Ashley, you're listening to the Inside Carolina podcast, sponsored by Johnny T-shirt and Johnny T-shirt.com.

A little bit of a special edition podcast.

I've got Buck Sanders with me here recording on a Sunday night, but I've also got Don Callahan,

the legendary Don Callahan. It just continues to grow. Don, I appreciate you taking the time to join us.

I feel like I'm cheating on Ross a little bit. I feel like I'm cheating on Ross a little bit.

I feel like I'm cheating on Ross. Ross is not going to be happy. He goes out of town and then I do a podcast with you. I mean, what is he going to think? How are we going to explain this? Well, the other

night, he took a shot at you when we were talking about Silver's commitment. And so here we all

getting him back.

What was the shot at me?

You were asleep.

He said you were counting sheep.

Oh.

Great stuff.

I have to get my beauty rest.

Absolutely.

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