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Thoughts on the Market

Special Episode: What to Do When Everything is Rich

Thoughts on the Market

Morgan Stanley

Strategy, Alternatives, Macro, Equities, Fixed Income, Investing, Global, Business, Markets, Economics

4.81.4K Ratings

🗓️ 8 June 2021

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

Chief Cross-Asset Strategist Andrew Sheets and Head of Fixed Income Strategy Vishy Tirupattur cover a key topic on the minds of many investors: where to invest now?


Mortgage Backed Securities (MBS) and Collateralized Mortgage Obligations (CMO)

Principal is returned on a monthly basis over the life of the security. Principal prepayment can significantly affect the monthly income stream and the maturity of any type of MBS, including standard MBS, CMOs and Lottery Bonds. Yields and average lives are estimated based on prepayment assumptions and are subject to change based on actual prepayment of the mortgages in the underlying pools. The level of predictability of an MBS/CMO's average life, and its market price, depends on the type of MBS/CMO class purchased and interest rate movements. In general, as interest rates fall, prepayment speeds are likely to increase, thus shortening the MBS/CMO's average life and likely causing its market price to rise. Conversely, as interest rates rise, prepayment speeds are likely to decrease, thus lengthening average life and likely causing the MBS/CMO's market price to fall. Some MBS/CMOs may have “original issue discount” (OID). OID occurs if the MBS/CMO’s original issue price is below its stated redemption price at maturity, and results in “imputed interest” that must be reported annually for tax purposes, resulting in a tax liability even though interest was not received. Investors are urged to consult their tax advisors for more information. Government agency backing applies only to the face value of the CMO and not to any premium paid.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Thoughts in the Market.

0:03.8

I'm Andrew Sheets, Chief Cross-Asset Stragist for Morgan Stanley.

0:07.6

And I'm Wishi Trupator, Head of Fixed Income Research at Longstown.

0:11.3

And on this special edition of the podcast, we'll be covering a topic on the minds of

0:15.4

many investors.

0:16.7

What to do when everything seems rich?

0:19.7

It's Tuesday, June 8th at 3pm in London.

0:23.1

And 10am in New York.

0:26.0

So Wishi, it's great to talk to you because I think it's safe to say that investors

0:29.1

are facing a bit of a conundrum right now.

0:31.3

As regular listeners of the podcast have heard us discuss, we're still an early cycle timing

0:36.0

in terms of how far we are removed from the last recession.

0:39.9

However, market conditions check most of the boxes of a mid-cycle environment.

0:44.4

And valuations are decidedly late cycle.

0:47.2

By that, I mean, the current valuations across a lot of markets have already priced in

0:51.5

a lot of positivity around economic growth.

0:54.0

So how do you think fixed income investors should be thinking about markets right now

0:58.0

in light of all those dynamics?

0:59.6

Yeah, Andrew.

1:00.6

In fact, that brings me back to the year 2004.

1:03.9

There are some similarities between 2004 and now.

1:06.9

The one place I find interesting similarity is in seeking returns by taking on a little

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