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To The Contrary with Charlie Sykes

Special Episode: Pam Bondi Might Be Coming After You

To The Contrary with Charlie Sykes

Charlie Sykes

News Commentary, Politics, News

4.9719 Ratings

🗓️ 10 December 2025

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

We recently learned that AG Pam Bondi had issued an 8-page memo that orders the FBI to “compile a list of groups or entities engaging in acts that may constitute domestic terrorism". It's now becoming clear that is not just an aggressive memo, it creates a secret domestic terror list Congress never approved. In this short, special episode, Charlie explain more.




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0:00.0

Look, I have to warn you, this is the scariest thing you're going to hear today, and if you're not scared well, then you're not paying attention.

0:05.7

Pam Bondi is creating a list of extremists and terrorists, and you might end up on it.

0:10.6

Seriously, I'm Charlie Sykes with a special emergency to the contrary, because you really have to know what's going on here.

0:17.8

Look, let's step back a bit. If you want to understand how a new domestic security

0:22.5

apparatus is born, you usually have to look for a moment of crisis, a trigger event, a ritesag fire,

0:27.6

or a 9-11. For MAGA, that moment was the September assassination of Charlie Kirk, and that

0:34.8

shocking murder was immediately framed by the Trump administration

0:38.3

as nothing less than a 9-11 type event. Now, that's the kind of language that demands a huge

0:44.7

national security response, and that's what we are getting. And this is alarming as hell.

0:50.6

Attention needs to be paid to all of the details. That's what I want to kind of lay out for you

0:54.8

what's going on here. You may or may not have heard of this eight-page memo issued by Attorney General Pam Bondi.

1:01.5

It's not just policy. It's the detailed tactical guide for implementing Trump's bigger strategy on organized political violence known as S, what is it, N.S. PM7? You don't need to know that.

1:13.4

But you do need to understand how this new policy works at what it actually does. And specifically,

1:18.5

what it tells the FBI to do local law enforcement, the kinds of things they are ordered to do.

1:24.2

And the genuinely shocking ideological criteria used to define this domestic threat,

1:29.4

and how it creates a shadow terror designation regime. This is something that Congress explicitly

1:35.1

chose not to authorize, and so it is a remarkable study of raw authoritarianism, and it could

1:41.2

reshape dissent in the United States of America for years to come.

1:46.6

Now, Bondi's memo says it targets domestic terrorism, but its focus is almost exclusively on ideology.

1:53.2

I mean, the memo's language essentially builds a composite culture war enemy.

1:57.2

It shifts the entire focus from what illegal things you might be planning to what

2:02.3

political ideas you might have. And Bonnie's memo is incredibly specific. The memo tells law

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