Welcome to Conversations with John and Lisa. This is Austin Bavir and today we want to share

with you a preview from Lisa's brand new course, Moms of Men. We hope this preview encourages

you and whatever season of life you're in. So sit back, relax and enjoy this episode.

Welcome to Moms of Men. I can't even tell you how excited I am. I actually have my men

here with me. I've got my youngest son, Arden, Addison, Alek, who is bank the most and Austin.

So we've got all of my boys and we think this is a great opportunity. I've already been really

open with you guys. I did not do everything perfectly, not even everything well, but I want you

to hear from their perspective, not just my perspective. So this is going to be enlightening for

everyone. We want you to hear from the boys perspective and we've just opened it up that they can

be vulnerable and they can be honest. So we're going to go for this. So one of the topics we're

going to cover is anybody that wants to go first is, so what would you guys say to a mom out there

that is a single mom maybe and she's raising sons or a mom that's just feeling overwhelmed. Maybe

she's got one son and she has a bunch of daughters or she's feeling insecure. What would be a

source of encouragement that you would give her? Well, I'll say something like, and just what I've

learned growing up is when we were young, I never got the sense that you were drowning. And I know

that it's seriously, and I know you talked about that and stuff like that how every day you felt

overwhelmed, but as your son and probably all of us, we never had that impression, impression that

like, oh my gosh, our mom is losing air. Oh my gosh, our mom is about to play it for anything like that.

I never had that impression. So I would love to just encourage moms like the

sons don't always perceive all the emotions that you are feeling, but you're doing the best you

can and know that and your sons aren't picking up on all those cues. So literally, they're not

being as hard on you as you may be being on yourself. And so I just want to encourage you with that.

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