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This is Deep State Radio, coming to you direct from our super secret studio in the third sub-basement of the Ministry of Snark in Washington, D.C.,

and from other undisclosed locations across America and around the world.

Hello and welcome to Deep State Radio.

Welcome to a special edition of Deep State Radio where we're going to take an

in-depth look and also celebrate the publication of Ed Luce's new book, Spig. We'll even ask

him what Spig means, because as far as I know, it's not even a word. And, of course, to have this

conversation, we are joined today, not just by Ed, but also by

Rosa Brooks, who, if you can see any of this video, has lots of books behind her, and I believe

has read and written lots of books and is also a big mucky muck at Georgetown University Law School.

How are you doing, Rosa?

I'm great, David. I do have books. That's because I'm a law professor and we're required

to decorate our office using. Are those real or is that kind of books?

No, you can actually order them by the yard.

And here, appreciating the fact that we're taking his book seriously, of course, also is

Edluse of the Financial Times. How is book launch week going at? Is a nonstop whirl,

cocktail parties, private jets flying you from coast to coast, signings.

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