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Otherppl with Brad Listi

Special Episode: DeepDive Sneak Preview!

Otherppl with Brad Listi

Brad Listi

Arts, Society & Culture, Books

4.8554 Ratings

🗓️ 28 September 2025

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Today’s episode is a special preview of How to Write Autobiographical Fiction, a brand-new DeepDive course featuring acclaimed novelist Hannah Pittard, author of Listen to Me, Visible Empire, The Fates Will Find Their Way, Reunion, and If You Love It, Let It Kill You. The course, hosted by Brad Listi, explores the art and craft of autobiographical fiction: what it is, how it differs from memoir, how to shape persona and voice, how to navigate the ethical challenges of writing about real people, how to revise effectively, and how to bring your work into the world. Along the way, Hannah shares candid stories, practical exercises, and hard-won lessons from her own writing life. The course also features conversations with Michael Wheaton, founder of Autofocus Books, an independent press dedicated to publishing autobiographical writing. How to Write Autobiographical Fiction launches on October 1, 2025, exclusively from DeepDive. You’ll be able to stream the course online or listen in the DeepDive app, which also gives you access to the DeepDive Community — a space to ask questions, get feedback, and connect with other writers. In this episode, you’ll hear Episode One of the course in its entirety. Learn more at www.deepdive.audio or download the DeepDive app in the App Store. *** ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Otherppl with Brad Listi⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are available: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, etc. Get ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠How to Write a Novel,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ the debut audio course from DeepDive. 50+ hours of never-before-heard insight, inspiration, and instruction from dozens of today's most celebrated contemporary authors. Subscribe to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Brad's email newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Support the show on Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Merch⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Bluesky⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com The podcast is a ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠proud affiliate partner of Bookshop⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, working to support local, independent bookstores. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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participation may vary. Welcome to the program. This is the other people show. I am Brad Listy and I'm in Los Angeles. Thanks for listening. Hope you're okay out there. Happy Sunday. Don't forget to hit the subscribe button wherever you listen, and you can follow me on Instagram and Blue Sky. I have a special episode for you today. I'm going to be sharing a sneak preview of how to write autobiographical fiction, a brand new course from Deepdive that is taught by acclaimed writer Hannah Patard. She is the author of several

1:32.0

novels, including Listen to Me, The Fates Will Find Their Way, and most recently, a work of

1:39.1

auto fiction called If You Love It, Let It Kill You. So how to write autobiographical fiction is a new course from

1:46.1

Deepdive. And for the uninitiated, Deepdive is my company. It's a new company that I founded

1:52.7

earlier this year. It produces in-depth courses. It's an education company. And the debut course from Deep Dive was released earlier this

2:03.6

year. It is called How to Write a Novel. And it's sort of the flagship course from Deep

2:08.6

dive. It is available right now. It's more than 50 hours in length. And it features instruction

2:15.5

from nearly four dozen of today's most celebrated contemporary authors.

2:21.1

And then how to write autobiographical fiction is the new course, which is coming out soon,

2:27.1

and it is what I would refer to as an intensive. It is a shorter format course. It's all about autobiographical fiction, so it's very focused. It's about what autobiographical fiction is, what it is not, how it differs from memoir, how to shape persona and voice on the page, how to handle the ethical challenges of writing about real people, how to

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