Hello and welcome back to Bad Gays, a podcast about evil and complicated gay men in history.

My name is Ben Miller. I'm a writer, researcher, and member of the board of the Gay Museum in Berlin.

On this show, we look back at some villains and complicated people from gay history and try to ask why we don't

learn from or think about them as much as we learn from and think about our heroes.

So thanks to our Patreon supporters, our second season is going to be coming in the fall.

And if you're interested in supporting us on Patreon, you can learn more at patreon.com slash

badgays pod.

But that response and the response from our other listeners has been so overwhelming that we

wanted to throw you guys a few special episodes between seasons, talking to friends and colleagues,

writers, thinkers, artists, who would come on and

have conversations with us about some bad gays from their experience, some bad gays from

their research, to kind of broaden the scope of our interest a little bit and look at some

folks that we might not get to on our own.

And so today I am very happy to introduce you all to the brilliant and hilarious Sholam Khrstalka,

who is an artist and writer behind the Berlin Diaries and whose work is currently being shown at the Periton Gallery in New York.

Welcome, Sholam.

Thank you. Long-time listener. First time caller.

I think it's the first time that anyone is called.

Well, fair enough.

And there's no one else that we would have liked to call first.

So Shultam, who are you going to be telling us about today?

I'm going to be telling you all about Andy Warhol today.

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