Welcome to Conversations with John and Lisa.

And we're going to be talking about hashtag MeToo,

hashtag ChurchTube.

And I am so honored that I have someone joining me.

Her name is Asha, and she is a fireball,

an opponent for voice and truth.

So I look forward to you listening with your heart.

You, I think the church is way behind on this.

I think it took them by surprise.

I think there are some pastors that had no idea

that they're, let's just go with a hierarchy fostered it.

I think what you're saying is the Bible says we go to them,

then we go with somebody else.

And then if they don't hear us, then we take it,

we take it outside or we take, push them outside.

The hierarchies that are in place right now

actually probably don't allow for that.

So that's, I think that's the problem.

Yeah, I think that is a huge problem.

I do think that millennials are, my son was saying,

you know, we're, I was talking to my son yesterday in preparation for this.

And he said, you know, millennials are tired of the pat answers.

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