Hi lovely listeners. I am dropping into your feed today with a special episode.

Hopefully you know that part of what we do at NotSari is run literary pilgrimages.

We take you away with your favorite books to reading community,

share meals, and walk beautiful landscapes. These are immersive retreats that give

you time and tools for your reflection outside of your daily life.

This year, we're leading our very first music-based pilgrimage on the music of Taylor Swift. I am so excited. The trip is in November in

beautiful Cape Cod and we still have a few spots open so you still have the opportunity

to join us. Today I've invited the faculty for that pilgrimage the brilliant

Margaret H Wilson to chat with me a little bit about

sacredness of music, why we picked Taylor Swift's albums,

folklore, and evermore, and what Margaret has planned for this trip.

Hi Margaret, hi Vanessa. I'll just say it up front. Folklore is my favorite Taylor Swift album so I am

particularly excited about this trip. It may be mine as well. It's

certainly the one I've listened to the most but it's hard to pick a favorite.

I know it's it really is like your favorite child whoever's in front of you. I know I'm so

extent to go on this trip because it's a first for me in two ways. One, it's the first time I'm going to get to be on

a pilgrimage with you, Vanessa.

I know, Power Duo.

I know, this is kind of huge.

Normally they have to like split up the star quality that's happening here.

But for Taylor, we can both be in attendance so I'm very

excited about that. Also I have been jealous of every pilgrimage at Auto Camp

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