Hello again, it's Howard in London at the home of the unexplained.

I wanted to get this out to you before it appears on my radio show.

It's a conversation that I've just recorded here with Nick Pope, the former Ministry of Defense

UFO investigator and now independent investigator in the US.

About this story, it's been in all the newspapers here this week and I'm sure it's been in

the newspapers in the US.

The British Ministry of Defense has quietly released two final X files, the detail the

secrets of Britain's quest to understand the phenomenon of UFOs.

Over the past 11 years, the MOD here has declassified 60,000 pages, exposing the secrets of a government

investigation into unexplained sightings over the UK.

In April, the last pair of files were published and they'd available to the public at the

National Archives in Q, near London, where they must be viewed in person because they haven't

yet been digitised.

The latest files to be released don't contain a quote smoking gun, which proves the existence

of aliens, but they reveal fascinating aspects of investigators' attempts to understand

the phenomenon.

So let's speak to a man who worked not only at the Ministry of Defense, but also worked

on the release of these documents, Nick Pope, and I spoke with him just a few minutes

ago here.

What we have here is, I suppose, the final pieces of the puzzle when it came to the question

of how did we in the Ministry of Defense try to make our way through this?

How did we try to make sense of this phenomenon?

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