Special Edition: Memo #Released
The Lawfare Podcast
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🗓️ 3 February 2018
⏱️ 44 minutes
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Summary
On Friday, Rep. Devin Nunes, the House intelligence committee chairman, released a controversial and long-awaited memo alleging surveillance abuses by the Justice Department and FBI against Carter Page, a former foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign. In this special edition of the Lawfare Podcast, Quinta Jurecic, Orin Kerr, David Kris and Benjamin Wittes unpack the memo, its charges, and what those charges mean for the Mueller investigation and the future of surveillance oversight.
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| 0:29.0 | I'm Benjamin Widis and this is the LawFair podcast special edition February 2nd, 2018. |
| 0:37.0 | The hashtag memo has been hashtag released. |
| 0:43.0 | And maybe it was all just a dud. |
| 0:47.0 | Jim Comey responded with a tweet saying, that's it. |
| 0:51.0 | On the other hand, I was just on the set of Meet the Press |
| 0:55.0 | with Congressman Mark Meadows and Jim Jordan, who seemed to think there was an outrageous scandal here. |
| 1:03.0 | So there's a debate to be had, I suppose. |
| 1:05.0 | We at LawFair are not going to have that debate. |
| 1:09.0 | We are bringing you two people that nobody else can bring you on this subject, |
| 1:14.0 | who actually knows something about the underlying issues associated with this memo. |
| 1:20.0 | One of them is David Chris, who ran the National Security Division at the Justice Department |
| 1:26.0 | and who knows more about Thysa than any other three people you have ever met put together. |
| 1:33.0 | The other one is Fourth Amendment God or in Kerr. |
| 1:38.0 | Who is the perfect person to answer the question if this memo is all true? |
| 1:44.0 | So what? We'll get to them in a moment. |
| 1:46.0 | But before we do, I thought it would be useful to start with a brief primer on what's happened |
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