You're listening to American Prestige. To listen ad-free, you can subscribe at Americanprostagepod.com.

Find the link in our show notes. Hi, this is Ava from Vanta. In today's digital world,

compliance regulations are changing constantly, and earning customer trust has never mattered more.

Vanta helps companies get compliant fast and stay secure with the most advanced AI automation and continuous monitoring out there.

So whether you're a startup going for your first SOC 2 or ISO-27,001 or a growing enterprise

managing vendor risk, Banta makes it quick, easy, and scalable.

And I'm not to say that because I work here.

Get started today at banta.com.

Hello, Prestige Heads and welcome to American Prestige.

I'm Danny Bessner here alone because Derek, sadly, tragically couldn't make it today. But I'm very excited to welcome back to the pod. One of our all-time guests, the greatest guest we've ever had, and that is Alex Avina. Alex, of course, is an associate professor in the School of Historical, Philosophical, and Religious Studies at Arizona State University. And I'm also very excited to welcome to the podcast today for

the first time, Ahmed Shucker. Ahmed is Associate Professor of History at Swarthmore College. And I've invited

them both on to talk about some goings on that have been happening at the American Historical

Association.

And I know sometimes people ask, why do we do these academia episodes?

But I actually think it's important because elite cultural spaces of which the American Historical Association, at least used to be with adjunctification, maybe a bit less, but I think

is still an elite sort of cultural space.

They're actually important for understanding how these important cultural and intellectual institutions

function. So I'm a historian, of course, and exploring how the AHA has changed over time and what the

aHA is doing is, I think important for giving insight into what's going on with

the American university, what's going on with elite cultural spaces like universities or places

like the New York Times, the Smithsonian, and provides insight into where these cultural institutions

are going. So I do think it's important every now and then to pay attention to what's going on in a

...