Wunderry Plus subscribers can listen to USA Today's The Excerpt, ad free right now.

Join Wunderry Plus in the Wundery app.

Hello and

this is Wednesday, September 4th, 2024, and this is a special episode of the excerpt.

If you're excerpt.

If you're the type of person who might enjoy five daily reminders about death sent to your phone, you might like to know there's an app for that. It may sound ghoulish, but the goal is to find

happiness by living truthfully with the inevitability of dying. Death is, after all, are shared

and unavoidable final chapter in life.

Organizations like the Conversation Project

encourage meaningful conversations with loved ones and caregivers

about personal wishes regarding end of life care.

What's the path to acceptance and easing into the reality of dying and death?

Our guest is best-selling author, A death dula, attorney, and founder of Going with Grace.

She now joins us to discuss the death positive movement.

Thanks for being on the excerpt, Deluwa.

It's my absolute pleasure and honor.

First, what is a death doula and what led to your decision to become one?

A death dula is somebody who does all of the non-medical and holistic care and support of the dying person and their circle of support through the entire process.

And when I say dying person, I mean anybody who has come into recognition of their mortality,

which means that even when people are healthy, we can support them in completing comprehensive end-of-life

plans.

After a death has occurred, we can help the loved ones and the dying person wrap up affairs and

...