All right, everybody, welcome to the Other People podcast. I'm Brad Listy. This is my podcast. Thanks for listening. It is Sunday. I have a brief special announcement to make. If you follow me on social media on Instagram or Blue Sky, you may have already seen this.

If you subscribe to my newsletter on Substack, perhaps you've already heard the news. But if not,

I'm going to say it here on the show. I want you guys to be among the first to know about an exciting

new thing that I'm doing. It's a new venture called DeepDive. And I'm soft

launching it. I think that's what you call this when you tell people about something that you're

doing. It's not live quite yet. It's not happening just yet, but it's coming soon. And I want to

let you know. I want to give you a heads up. So what is it? What is deep dive? Again,

it's long form educational audio. Did I say that already? Deep dive makes long form educational

audio courses, kind of like ultra long form. That's the distinguishing factor for this company.

I've been working on it for the past year, and the first course that I am going to release is called How to Write a Novel.

So for those of you listening, this might be of interest to you.

How to Write a Novel will be available again later this year. As far as I know,

there's nothing quite like it on the market. There's a lot of courses out there, but nothing

at this scale. It's going to be more than 50 hours of brand new content never before heard.

And it's going to feature dozens, more than 40 of today's leading writers.

Everyone from Emily St. John Mandel to Melissa Broder to Steve Allmond, to Porchista Hakpur,

to Kimberly King Parsons, Jay Ryan Stradle, Gina Frangelo, Jerry Stahl, Stephen Graham Jones, Hannah-Pittard, Lydia Kiesling, Vahnynivara, Jonathan Eveson, and many more.

I am the host of the course and I will be in conversation with all of these writers talking about how to write a novel.

So another distinguishing factor for deep dive in

addition to this ultra long form approach is that the aim here is for the content

to not be boring. Too much of educational content is boring. That's my

experience with it and so deep dive courses will combine the rigor of academia you are going

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