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Hi everyone, this is Scott.

If you want to learn about the world's oldest civilizations,

find out how they were rediscovered.

Follow the story of Mark Antony and Cleopatra's descendents

over ten generations,

or take a deep dive into the Iron Age or the Hellenistic era,

then check out the Ancient World podcast.

Available on all podcasting platforms,

or go to ancientworldpodcast.com.

That's the Ancient World podcast.

Hey, all just as a very, very, very, very brief introduction.

I had the pleasure last month of having a very long,

as you can probably see already, a very long,

but very enjoyable and productive conversation

with Aziz and Asaya,

of the history of West Ross podcast,

in which we discuss the ins and the outs of ET,

which is sort of the West Rossi,

or the planetos analog of China.

And we kind of compared and contrasted

how George R.R. Martin took historical parallels

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