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The thinking atheist, it's not a person. It's a symbol, an idea. The population of 80th

this country is going through the roof. Rejecting faith, pursuing knowledge, challenging the sacred.

If I tell the truth, it's because I tell the truth, not because I put my hand on a book and made a wish

and working together for a more rational world. Take the risk of thinking, feel so.

Much more happiness, truth, fusion, wisdom will come to you that way.

Assume nothing. Question everything. And start thinking. This is the thinking atheist podcast

hosted by South Andrews.

There is video of this conversation that YouTube link is in the description box of the show.

Oh, I love talking to ex pastors. I just love it. I love talking to people who have

stood behind the pulpit. I don't know. Were you a pulpit pounder? Do I call you DB or what's

the most comfortable title? What do I call you during our conversation? His holiness.

Your eminence. Dave, come today.

Dave will formally introduce you to start your former Baptist pastor. You're a product of

Duke and Princeton. Aren't you a Mr. Fancy pants there? What did you study at Duke and Princeton?

Let's start there. Let's take a step back. I did my undergraduate work at Wake Forest,

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