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The Story

Spanish football: The kiss, its fallout and Spain’s MeToo moment

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The Times

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3.91.6K Ratings

🗓️ 12 September 2023

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

At the Women’s World Cup final last month, the president of the Spanish Football Federation kissed the national team’s star player - on the lips. She said it was not consensual and it sparked condemnation around the globe. Now that Luis Rubiales has resigned, what does it all mean - not just for football, but women’s rights on and off the pitch?

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Guest: Martyn Ziegler, chief sports reporter, The Times.

Host: Jane Mulkerrins.

Producer: Olivia Case.

Clips: BBC, TalkTV, ITV, SKY, ABC News, Real Federación Española de Fútbol, Jenni Hermoso, AFP, Reuters, Shescoresbanger.

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0:00.0

What a difference 18 days makes.

0:06.0

I will not resign.

0:09.0

I will not resign.

0:11.0

No, I will not resign.

0:24.0

So the man at the top of Spanish football has finally bowed to pressure to step down.

0:30.0

It all started three weeks ago at the final of the women's football World Cup.

0:44.0

The Spanish team had beaten England's lionesses.

0:47.0

They were on top of the world.

0:49.0

And then...

0:55.0

Millions of people have now seen the head of the Spanish Football Federation

0:58.0

Kiss a female player without consent.

1:01.0

He says the kiss was mutual and with consent.

1:04.0

However, her most so said in a video quote,

1:07.0

I didn't like it, but what can I do?

1:11.0

Was it an isolated incident or part of a much wider problem of misogyny in the game?

1:20.0

And why did it lead to such a huge outpouring of anger in Spain on the cusp of its own me to moment?

1:28.0

You're listening to stories of our times from the times and the Sunday times.

1:37.0

I'm Jane Malkerrens.

1:39.0

Today, the kiss, the beautiful game and football's equality issue.

1:53.0

I am Martin Ziegler and I'm the Chief Sports Reporter for the Times and Sunday Times.

1:59.0

Martin had been watching the game at home with his family.

2:04.0

Spain had been playing England and the family was pre-disappointed by the lionesses' loss

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