Houston, we have a podcast. Welcome to the official podcast of the NASA Johnson Space

Center, Episode 247, Space Suits and Rovers. I'm Gary Jordan. I'll be your host today.

On this podcast, we bring in the experts, scientists, engineers, and astronauts, all

to let you know what's going on in the world of human spaceflight. On this episode, we're

going to be introducing a new program at NASA that's overseeing the development of the

next boot prints and tire tracks that will soon be seeing on the lunar surface. The program

is called Extra-Vehicular Activity and Human Surface Mobility Program, or EHP. And

its mission is to work with industry and international partners to help develop the next generation

of spacesuits for low earth orbit and for the moon, as well as the next generation of

lunar rovers. The guest is the program's manager, Laura Kerney. We had her on the podcast

before to talk about the gateway program of which she spent a few years as its deputy manager.

But today, we're diving into the design of this new program and some big milestones

that are already underway. So let's get right into it. Enjoy.

Thanks for having me. I'm glad to be here. So last we talked funny enough. You were here

to talk about starting a new program and that's what we're going to do today. You did

the gateway program and now we're going to be talking about this new EHP program. Seems

like you were pro at this at this point. Yeah, you know, I realize I really like the early

startup phases. I love the strategy. I love team building. I've just, you know, I'm

drawn to it and have kind of gotten a little good at it over the time. So yeah, so here

we go. Another opportunity. I think so. So yeah, when we talked, it was the program

that we were talking about was the program was at its infancy. It was the gateway program.

And a lot of time has passed since we last talked, you were, you were really just getting

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