The Welcome to the Space Policy Edition, another month, another episode. I am Casey Dreyer, the chief of Space Policy here at the Planetary Society.

And today I'm joined by my colleague Jack Curley, who is, among other things,

the head of our Washington operations and government relations here at the planetary society as well.

Hey Jack.

Hey Casey, how are you doing?

Doing good.

Enjoying myself and looking forward to a whole new year of space policy

episodes coming up after this one.

This is the last of 2024.

However, that does not matter because we have a slightly different

take on the show today.

Instead of having an external guest, we, Jack, you and I, are going to read,

I'd say, I was going to say a famous paper of space policy.

I don't know if space policy papers

are tend to be famous, but an infamous one.

And it's gonna be part of a series we do on the show

for visiting or revisiting really influential and important pieces of space policy,

academic analysis and journal writing and articles and analysis.

And this episode, we're going to be actually starting with a paper written by our board

member, John Logston, who I think literally, would you say he literally

founded the field of space history and policy?

I would say that he wrote the book,

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