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Welcome to Grow Cook Eat Arrange with me, Arthur Parkinson and Sarah Raven.

In this episode, we're going to be talking about how our gardens are erasuses for birds and bees, and also about how to grow corgettes.

So they're both incredibly relevant to right now, aren't they, Arthur?

Because it's peak sewing moment.

So as we're sowing seeds and planting plants in the spring,

I'm always, and I know you are, thinking about what role that plant will have in the garden,

not just to look beautiful, but also

does it help another plant out or does it help the bees and the birds? And for me, the longer

I garden, just the more important that sort of multifested thing in a plant is and how it sort of its context in the world,

it's not just to deliver incredible pleasure to us, which is very, very important and what

gardens are, of course, primarily for in a way, but also do they have a bigger, wider role?

Yeah, I couldn't agree more.

Tell me your, maybe like your five favourite plants for bees and butterflies,

and then we can move on to birds.

I mean, I think I should say that the thing that I find irritating is someone who, like you,

loves wildlife in the garden is that

wildlife gardening has kind of been made to become almost like a thing that's separate from normal

gardening and what I really think that what we try to do on a daily basis really is try and

just bring the two together. It's about bringing glamour and wildlife together. And if you can do that,

I do think you end up with Eden, what Eden should be in a garden. You know, we're always looking at,

I think me and you both find the wildflower meadow, our biggest source of inspiration,

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