This is a Voyescape podcast. You can find all of our travel podcasts from around the world at

voyescape.com. On today's show, a couple of you school us about Wells Fargo credit cards.

We'll learn about how you can earn transferable points just by paying your mortgage. And we'll learn how

Southwest credit cards can take the sting out of the coming customer unfriendly changes.

Frequent Miller on the air starts now. Today's main event, Southwest loves cardholders.

Southwest has made a number of customer unfriendly moves

lately, but as we started to learn more about how they're going to treat cardholders, we've

discovered that the cardholders might actually like some of the changes that are happening.

Yeah, I think cardholders are going to make out really well, much better than average. So we'll see. We'll see how that works out for you when you listen to that part of today's show. Speaking of which, remember, if you want to jump ahead to something or you want to come back to something, you can always find the timestamps in the show notes. So just expand the show description to find that. And wherever you're watching or listening, don't forget to give this a thumbs up, like it, leave us a review. We always appreciate those things.

It's time to drag out this week's giant mail bag. All right. This week's giant mail is several

pieces of mail in reaction to our show, a world-class Wells Fargo wallet, where we talked all about

how you could put together a great Wells Fargo wallet where we talked all about how you could put together a great

Wells Fargo wallet by assembling together several different cards. And Jonathan wrote, among other things,

he wrote, to my surprise, Wells Fargo allows you to transfer as little as a single point. So that's really unusual.

Usually, with most programs, you have to transfer at least a thousand points at a time.

Jonathan says that you can actually transfer one point at a time. Yeah, you know, I remember that

being discussed when the cards first came out and then points first became transferable, but it was one of those pieces of the knowledge that I remember hearing about, and I kind of followed it away and totally forgot that I knew it because I don't have one of the Wells Fargo cards, so I've not been in the habit of using us.

But I remember when they first came out, we wrote about how they could be great for topping up whatever you need for a specific redemption because

you can transfer to the single point digit, single digit point, whatever. You know what I'm saying.

Yeah. Yeah. So that's a, that's a really nice trick. You know, I don't think they support transfers

to Eddie Hod, but they would be great. They would be perfect because the problem with Eddie Hod we've

discussed on the show before is sometimes you'll see you can book this American Airlines flight

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