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Woman's Hour

Southport inquiry, Cam, DCI Helen Tebbit

Woman's Hour

BBC

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness, Personal Journals

4.22.9K Ratings

🗓️ 10 July 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

The Southport inquiry - the first phase of which took place in Liverpool this week - heard statements from the families of four girls who survived despite being seriously injured during the attacks on 29 July last year. The public inquiry heard testimony from one of the girls' mothers, who said her daughter 'fought like hell' to save herself and others. Anita Rani speaks to Judith Moritz, BBC Special Correspondent, about some of the eyewitness accounts.

An exhibition celebrating the life and work of renowned Australian artist Emily Kam Kngwarray opens today at the Tate Modern in London. Respectfully known as ‘the old lady’ by her community, Emily didn’t start painting on canvas until her 70s. She went on to produce over 2,000 paintings and achieve huge critical acclaim before her death in 1996. Anita talks to art curator Kelli Cole about Emily's often monumental paintings, which were inspired by her life as a senior Anmatyerr woman from the Sandover region of the Northern Territory of Australia.

Chief Inspector Helen Tebbit of Cambridgeshire Police joins Anita to talk about her role as senior investigating officer in a rape investigation which resulted in a sexual predator, Craig France, being jailed for more than 10 years - as featured this week in the Channel 4 TV series, 24 Hours in Police Custody.

Camaron Marvel Ochs, known professionally as Cam, is an American country music singer songwriter. Her most successful single, Burning House, received widespread acclaim and went triple platinum. She has written for a range of artists including Sam Smith and Miley Cyrus, and last year she received a Grammy award for songwriting, production and backing vocals for Beyoncé's Cowboy Carter album. Anita speaks to her about her career so far and her forthcoming album – All Things Light Up.

Presenter: Anita Rani Producer: Rebecca Myatt

Transcript

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0:31.7

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0:35.7

Hello, I'm Anita Rani and welcome to Woman's Hour from BBC Radio 4.

0:40.5

Just to say that for rights reasons, the music in the original radio broadcast has been removed

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for this podcast.

0:47.3

Good morning, welcome to the program.

0:49.5

DCI Helen Tebitt, who runs the rape investigation team at Cambridge.

0:53.2

The Police will be here to tell us about one of the most difficult cases she's ever worked on, the investigation into rapist Craig France, which is being televised as a two-part channel four series 24 hours in police custody.

1:07.3

Also on the program, we have music from country singer Cam, who's written songs for Miley Cyrus, Sam Smith and who won a Grammy for songwriting production and backing vocals for Beyonce's Cowboy Carter album.

1:19.7

And yesterday I went along to the tape modern to see an extraordinary exhibition, a stunning retrospective of Emily Kama Anguare, a prolific and preeminent Australian

1:29.9

artist, an Aboriginal artist who died in 1996. But Anguare didn't start painting until after

1:36.4

the age of 70, a remarkable woman who you'll be hearing all about. This morning, I'd like to hear

1:41.8

your stories of what you've started later in life that's brought you recognition.

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