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🗓️ 11 July 2025
⏱️ 55 minutes
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Katie Brayben is a two-time Olivier award winner for Best Actress in A Musical for Tammy Faye and Beautiful: The Carole King Musical. Now she is reprising the role of Elizabeth Laine in Girl From the North Country currently on stage at the Old Vic in London. Katie joins Anita Rani to explain what has drawn her back to this role.
A third of women who died during or in the year after pregnancy were known to children’s social care, according to new research. The study by Kings College London, Oxford University and the charity Birth Companions, examined the data of nearly 1,400 women who died between 2014 and 2022. In particular, they looked at the 420 known to social services, half of those women died by suicide or from substance-related causes. Anita discusses the research with Kaat De Backer, Researcher King’s College London and Amy Van Zyl, Chief Executive, Her Circle.
From Frank Sinatra to the Beatles, many of the biggest male stars built their early careers on the romantic appeal to young women. Bea Martinez-Gatell is author of Swoon, Fangirls, Their Idols And The Counterculture of Female Lust – From Byron To The Beatles. She joins Anita to explain that far from passive consumers, fangirls were actually tastemakers, visionaries and cultural disruptors.
Actor Jane Birkin's original Hermes Birkin has sold for £7.4 million pounds - becoming the most valuable handbag to ever be sold at auction. What makes the bag so iconic? Justine Picardie, writer and former editor in chief of Harpers Bazaar, and Marisa Meltzer, who has written It Girl: The Life and Legacy of Jane Birkin, join Anita to discuss the story behind the bag and what makes a fashion accessory so alluring.
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0:00.0 | I'm Mariana Spring, the BBC's social media investigations correspondent. |
0:06.0 | In my podcast, I've been investigating what happened to the daughter of a conspiracy theorist who died having rejected chemotherapy. |
0:13.0 | It would mean the world to me if I could make it that she wasn't just another in the long line of people that die in this way. |
0:19.0 | How does this reflect the rise of health conspiracy theories on social media and beyond? |
0:24.8 | The new series of Mariana in Conspiracy Land. |
0:27.9 | Listen on BBC Sounds. |
0:31.1 | BBC Sounds, music, radio podcasts. |
0:35.1 | Hello, I'm Anita Rani and welcome to Woman's Hour from BBC Radio 4. |
0:40.2 | Just to say that for rights reasons, the music in the original radio broadcast has been removed |
0:45.2 | for this podcast. |
0:46.6 | Good morning and welcome to the program. |
0:49.3 | How much have you, would you, pay for a bag? |
0:52.2 | How about £7.4 million. Of course, this is no ordinary bag. This is |
0:58.1 | the original Birkin bag designed by Hermes for singer and actor Jane Birkin, which was auctioned |
1:04.2 | in Paris yesterday, becoming the most expensive fashion accessory sold at auction in Europe. We'll be hearing |
1:10.7 | the story of the Berkin today. |
1:13.0 | We'll also roll out the red carpet for musical theatre royalty, two-time Olivier Award winning. |
1:18.8 | Katie Brabham will be with me telling me why she's back playing Elizabeth Lane in Girl from the North Country, which is on at the Old Vic in London. |
1:26.6 | All the music from this excellent play is by Bob Dylan. |
1:30.6 | And as an extra treat for us on this sunny Friday, Katie will be singing live. |
1:35.5 | And then we're going to be discussing fan girls. |
1:38.8 | Far from being silly, swooning, screaming teenagers, they are today, thanks to writer Bayer Martinez Gattel's new book, Swoon, |
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