Welcome back to the Kaffiru cast. This is South Cox and I am have the pleasure of inviting Aaron and Frank onto the

Well, thanks for inviting us. Yeah, well, you know, I figure I'll let you guys in your beaten on the door there before I cleaned out your inventory.

Well, cold outside. Yeah. So what are we going to talk about today, South?

Well, one of the things I don't know if you want to ultimately we're going to talk about doing some arrow testing, you know, as far as like the downrange ballistics of how

you know, different fletching configurations will slow your arrow and and also kind of monitoring or or engaging arrow noise with some decibel meters, but maybe want to talk about some other stuff before we get dive into into that.

Yeah, we I'm I'm open for whatever I it's funny those new veins I got. Yeah, I want to hear some about those I'm really curious. Yeah, well, I just paranoid, you know, with the weather, you know, Colorado, I don't really enough to worry about rain. And so with some pretty wet weather hunts specifically that goat hunt, I was trying to figure out, you know, I got duck feathers and then I had natural turkey feathers and all of them get wet.

Eventually, and I had multiple people in Alaska is just don't even try it just shoot an elevated rest with veins and I didn't want to really shoot an elevated rest. So I got to hold a Greg pool.

And he's like, man, I think we can do it. And so tried several kind of different mixtures, I guess, and then it's working now. I got it right. They sent me three, four and five inch and I just matched it up five inch to five inch. So I got three five inch veins. And they hit the same as well as I can shoot out the 40 with broad heads.

So I'm pretty excited. And it's not, you know, I was trying to explain to people because they're like, are they durable? It's like, well, no, they're not that durable in the sense they will wrinkle. They still hit the same spot. But for a guy who wants to just have three or four in the quiver or a couple in the quiver or go on a hunt and hitting the same spot and that up to stress over it, it's been a game changer for me because last night at 40, you know, in that little triangle at 40.

I'm hitting with broad heads right around with my field tips feathered, you know, feather fleshed as well as veins, bear shafts, everything's right there. And I can't ask for more than that.

So what, what is how are they different from a standard fletching that makes them more like a feather or perform like a soft way. So, okay. So it's the compound that they're.

And that's what took so long. They the mixtures like they made several mixtures to get it right. And they are like so soft. You're like how the hell do these. I would think it 240 to 30. They'd probably flatten out pretty good.

But it's slower speeds. They, they do fine. And I mean, like, I don't know if you if you have time. There's three videos I posted. They fly amazing. I did slow mo videos.

Oh, I think the farthest shot maybe was 45 or 50. But you can see them. I mean, they don't know bounce. No, it nothing crazy. So I'm excited just because I don't have to stress over it. I'm not going to have, you know, all my arrows fleshed with veins. I don't think but have a dozen.

You know, we need to go. And I at 40, they hit the same, you know, which I thought they might hit a little bit higher because of his feathers. But I would think that big veins probably flapping a little too and probably slowing down, you know, a little bit compared to a stiffer vein. It doesn't have maybe as much drag. But that's kind of, you know, that's the way the same hell. No. So a lighter.

Yeah, standard five inch veins 14 15 grains. They're like four point two. Basically, I was like, when I, you know, screwing around with this, because I'm a tinker anyway. And I'm like, huh. So we put them on. And then Amy and I went to, to golden with Fred. And I was like, we'll see, you know, I'm not too high hopes. And, you know, you always wonder like, okay, maybe I'm like a corrective bow arming. Am I making this?

What's happening? You know, and I don't know, I shot for six days total since I've gotten them. And I haven't found anything negative yet. So kind of more like a flex, a flex, a complex compound as far as being softer, but maybe even softer than the flex.

Way softer. So I had a few guys comment. You always get some chuckle head online of, oh, we've been doing that for years. Well, if you have what? Yeah, if people have how accurate are they for one? Like, okay, we've been doing it for years. Well, can you hit a stop sign at 40 yards? Like, is it that accurate? Or is it just close enough? And then, you know, kind of the next thing. You know, for me is is like, okay, I've tried. There's a soft Markovane and Markos are super old.

Did I tried? And it would hit close, but I'd get some some bounce. Right. And then those old A A E plastic fletch is what you can't even find anymore and A A makes these.

Those are probably twice as stiff is what these are. They're so flexible. It's almost like that's a vein. I mean, literally, it's that flexible. So I and I shoot off the shelf. And I don't have much of a gap between my strike plate and, you know, my shelf plate or whatever. So.

They just fold up, but over time, they're going to wrinkle, you know, but I mean, truly like if you go on a super wet weather hunt and you just grab a few of them, you're not, you don't have anything to worry about.

So they a parabolic or a shield cut?

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