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Hello and welcome to another South Beach session. We're putting Ryan Clark on the couch today. He's a Super Bowl champion. He used to be a violent man. He's still a fighter, though. I like that he is still a fighter. He likes to go back and forth with people, not afraid to hide his opinion. The pivot is his podcast. He works for ESPN, obviously. Welcome. Thank you for making the time. Thank you for having me. I appreciate it. I admire you for a number of different reasons. You interned at ESPN, right? You were still a player. You were still a player with the Steelers at the time. And then you decided to intern. What was that like? The making of the decision, and just how small was the job,

given where it is that you were? I mean, the job was very small. I mean, I just, you know how it is.

You go in and I'd done, whether it was NFL network or ESPN, you know what the car wash is,

right? And you got this guy that's basically walking you

around holding your hand throughout the whole process. And then you do it and you get some good

feedback and you start to think at that point, I'm going into year 10. And my thought process is I'm

not a Hall of Famer, right? I don't play the quarterback position. So if I do want to get into this

business, if this is

something i can do i need to see if i actually like it i need to see if i can actually handle

whatever it is that these analysts are asked to do so i met um seth markman in new

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