South African Music

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Music, Arts, Society & Culture

4.3 • 2K Ratings

🗓️ 25 August 2023

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

This week, hosts Jim DeRogatis and Greg Kot talk with journalist and author Lior Phillips about the rich and vibrant popular music of South Africa.

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Featured Songs:

Black Coffee, "Izizwe (feat. Busi Mhlongo)," Have Another One, Universal, 2007
The Beatles, "With A Little Help From My Friends," Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, Parlophone, 1967
Solomon Linda’s Evening Birds, "Mbube," Mbube (Single), Gallotone, 1939
Miriam Makeba, "Pata Pata," Pata Pata, Reprise, 1967
Ladysmith Black Mambazo, "Nomathemba," Amabutho, Gallo, 1973
Juluka, "Scatterlings of Africa," Scatterlings, Warner Bros., 1982
Brenda Fassie, "Vuli Ndlela," Memeza, CCP, 1997
Dolly Parton, "9 To 5," 9 to 5 and Odd Jobs, RCA Victor, 1980

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0:00.0	Hey Sound Opinions listeners, if you support us on Patreon, you get to listen to our podcast
0:05.8	ad-free on Patreon.
0:28.0	You're listening to Sound Opinions and this week we're talking about South African music
0:32.7	with author and journalist Lior Phillips. I'm Jim D. Ruggas and I'm Greg Pop. We're talking about the
0:38.6	formative music of the past and present of South Africa. Let's jump in. Throughout the years,
0:44.8	you know Greg, we've done a couple of these world tour episodes when we've talked about music
0:50.0	for a particular country that listeners here may not have been very familiar with. This week
0:55.8	we're diving deep into the popular music of South Africa that we want to mention here. This is not
1:01.2	all the music of South Africa. It's just a very good place to start. What a rich tradition.
1:07.4	Absolutely right Jim and we've got a great guide to take us on the tour today. South African journalist
1:13.2	and author of the 33 and a third book South African Popular Music, Lior Phillips. Lior,
1:19.6	welcome to Sound Opinions. Hi, thank you so much for having me. It's so lovely to meet both of you.
1:25.2	Well and congrats on this book. I mean talk about it ambitious. South African Popular Music,
1:31.6	you'd think it should be you know 18, 24 inches thick and you know a door stop but it's not. You
1:38.0	tackled this vast topic Lior in a very colorful and engaging way which is to say by zooming in on
1:46.5	key artists along the way giving us these lovely vignettes of wonderful songs and incredible artists.
1:53.4	It's an impossible extraordinary task to even think of starting from the 40s and any up till now
2:02.0	because now is still happening in all its glory and so that's why the book kind of went from
2:09.9	the title pop music to popular music. It originally was proposed as just talking about South African
2:17.3	pop and the more I got into the more stories that I researched was like that bug. I couldn't stop
2:23.2	researching and my edits is let me run with it so that's essentially what happened and how I landed
2:30.3	up here and I definitely mourned the loss of many other artists that I had to leave off and hope
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