South Africa’s genocide case against Israel
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The Times
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🗓️ 18 January 2024
⏱️ 34 minutes
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Summary
Three months into the war in Gaza, the conflict has reached a courtroom: the International Court of Justice in the Hague. South Africa says we are witnessing a genocide take place in real time. Israel has called the claims ‘preposterous’. A leading expert in international law walks us through the case and its possible consequences.
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Guest: Holger Hestermeyer, Professor of International and EU Law, Diplomatic Academy of Vienna.
Host: Luke Jones.
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| 0:25.9 | Square Up Europe Limited is authorized by the Financial Conduct Authority. The Three months into the war in Gaza and the conflict has reached a courtroom. room. |
| 0:53.0 | Please be seated. |
| 0:56.0 | Sitting is open. |
| 0:58.0 | South Africa versus Israel. |
| 1:01.0 | The International Court of Justice in the Hague, Gaza's health ministry, run by Hamas, say 23,000 people, |
| 1:09.5 | 1% of the The evidence of genocidal intent is not only chilling, it is also overwhelming and |
| 1:27.2 | incontrovertible. |
| 1:29.4 | If there have been acts that may be characterized as genocidal, then they have been perpetrated against Israel. |
| 1:37.3 | The application and request should be dismissed for what they are, a libel. |
| 1:45.0 | Do either side have a convincing case? |
| 1:48.0 | What can the International Court of Justice even do? |
| 1:51.0 | And could what's heard here change what's happening in the war. |
| 1:56.0 | You're listening to stories of our times. |
| 1:58.0 | From The Times and the Sunday Times, I'm Luke Jones. |
| 2:01.0 | Today, South Africa's genocide case against Israel explained. For this one we needed a top expert in international law so we hopped on a line to Vienna. |
| 2:23.2 | I'm Holger-Hister-Mayer. |
| 2:25.2 | I'm a professor of international and EU law at the diplomatic academy in Vienna and |
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