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Rugby Union Weekly

South Africa are back-to-back World Cup winners

Rugby Union Weekly

BBC

Sports, Rugby, News, Sports News

4.65.3K Ratings

🗓️ 28 October 2023

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Chris Jones is joined by Matt Dawson, former South Africa captain Bob Skinstad and New Zealand great Andrew Mehrtens, inside the Stade de France, to reflect on South Africa winning back-to-back World Cups. Matt Dawson claims that this South Africa team are “the greatest rugby side” he’s seen, after securing a record fourth World Cup title in their 12-11 victory over New Zealand. Sara Orchard also chats to Faf de Klerk on the national pride he feels by winning the World Cup and she catches up with head coach Jacques Nienaber after his final match in charge of the Springboks. The team also analyse where it went wrong for New Zealand and the impact of captain Sam Cane’s red card in the final. TOPICS: 00:50 How South Africa won an ‘amazing contest’ 03:31 Are this South Africa side ‘the greatest?’ 08:58 Faf de Klerk interview 12:28 Sam Cane’s red card 18:54 Jacques Nienaber interview 28:36 Where did New Zealand go wrong?

Transcript

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Before you listen to this BBC podcast, I'd like to introduce myself.

0:03.7

My name's Stevie Middleton and I'm a BBC Commissioner for a load of sport podcasts.

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0:18.5

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0:19.5

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0:25.0

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0:28.8

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0:31.2

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0:58.8

I don't think it's going to get any quieter.

1:01.0

The box are doing a lap of honor and tens of thousands of spring box fans in their green

1:06.8

and yellow are staying to hail their back-to-back heroes.

1:11.7

So much to come on the daily Matt Dawson and Drew Mertens will hear live reaction through

1:17.5

the pod from Sarah on the touch line.

1:20.6

But Bobby Skinstad, deja vu from exactly a week ago to the victor, the spoils and the

1:27.3

first word to you, four times, four times world champions, spring box have gone back-to-back.

1:35.0

How have they done that?

1:36.0

I've been working on this all week to try and say how I'm going to actually remember

1:40.0

to speak as we come and tell them or even on this show.

1:42.9

But I can't say too much more than, you know, what an amazing contest.

1:46.9

It really was a head of to New Zealand for putting everything.

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