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The Lead with Jake Tapper

Sources: Vindman believed Trump personally withheld aid as a way to force Ukraine to announce probe into Bidens; Bolton among 3 new major impeachment depositions; Gold Star families fight to repeal military "widow's tax"

The Lead with Jake Tapper

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3.51.7K Ratings

🗓️ 31 October 2019

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Two State Dept. officials testifying today on Capitol Hill; House impeachment investigators want Bolton to testify; Source: key witness Bill Taylor willing to testify publicly; Vindman testifies about missing words, despite Trump saying it was an "exact word-for-word" transcript of Ukraine call; Testimony: Bolton abruptly ended meeting with Ukraine officials after Soundland brought up investigations; July 10th WH meeting with Ukraine is first report of possible quid pro quo; Hurricane force winds stoke CA fires, 26 million under red flag warningsTo learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is CNN Breaking News.

0:04.0

Welcome to the lead. I'm Jake Tapper and we indeed begin with Breaking News.

0:08.0

Two sources present at the Tuesday deposition of White House National Security Council

0:13.8

staff for lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman tell me that Vindman told

0:18.2

congressional investigators that he became convinced that President Trump personally was ordering the withholding

0:25.9

of $400 million in aid for Ukraine as a way of forcing Ukrainian President Zelensky

0:31.6

to publicly announce an investigation into the Biden's.

0:35.0

Vindman said the existence of a quid pro quo had been clear to him by July 10th.

0:39.0

That's when U.S. Ambassador to the European Union, Gordon Sonland, something of a point man on the Ukraine situation,

0:45.6

told Ukrainian officials in a meeting at the White House that they would need to deliver, quote,

0:49.9

specific investigations in order to secure the White House meeting they so desired

0:55.6

with President Trump.

0:56.6

Now that's according to Vindman's opening statement that was reported yesterday, but the fact

1:01.6

that the $400 million in aid, including that desperately needed

1:05.1

military assistance to beat back the Russians, that was also being used by the

1:10.1

president. That didn't become clear until the next month

1:13.2

Vindman testified yesterday

1:15.1

and uh... after then national security advisor john Bolton

1:18.2

told vindman to prepare a decision memo

1:21.3

by august fifteen for b for Bolton and other senior administration

1:24.5

officials to present as a Trump administration-wide interagency argument to

1:29.9

President Trump to release the assistant funds to Ukraine as soon as possible.

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