Sources: Special counsel prosecutors question witnesses about chaotic Oval Office meeting after Trump lost the 2020 election

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🗓️ 7 July 2023

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Special counsel Jack Smith and his investigators have a signaled a continued interest on a chaotic Oval Office after then-President Trump lost the 2020 election and his allies allegedly schemed about ways to keep him in power over objections to White House counsel. Sources tell CNN that investigators have asked several witnesses before the grand jury and during interviews about that meeting. CNN Chief Correspondent Kaitlan Collins joins AC360 to discuss some of people they spoke with, who else was there, and why investigators want to learn more. Plus, the Secret Service’s investigation into the bag of cocaine found in the West Wing is expected to conclude early next week, regardless of whether a suspect is identified. Former Secret Service agent Jonathan Wackrow tells Anderson Cooper why this type of investigation is “complicated on a few different levels.”

Guests: Kaitlan Collins, Jonathan Wackrow

Airdate: July 6, 2023

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0:00.0	Tonight on 360 Breaking News and the January 6th investigation renewed focus by
0:05.2	Jackson's investigators on a 2020 Oval Office meeting where Trump allies
0:09.5	allegedly schemed with the former president about seizing voting machines and
0:13.3	overturning the election. Also tight where is Progojian? The Wagner mercenary leader
0:18.9	supposedly exiled to Belarus for leading a mutiny against the Kremlin has he
0:23.6	returned to the motherland and what will bother her Putin due to him there.
0:27.4	And Marjorie Taylor Greene is she too much even for the conservative freedom
0:31.0	caucus report she may have been voted out by her fellow Republicans. We begin
0:35.3	tonight with Breaking News what multiple sources are now telling CNN about
0:38.5	that turbulent December 18th 2020 Oval Office meeting involving the former
0:43.3	president Rudy Giuliani, disgraced general Michael Flynn, lawyer Sidney Powell,
0:47.4	and a former dot com CEO. Our Caitlin Collins is part of the reporting team which
0:52.4	has the exclusive she joins me here. So what if you learn? This is essentially
0:56.4	something that has been a continued interest of Jack Smith's but appears to be
0:59.8	a renewed one based on what we are hearing, which is that he and his team are
1:03.9	asking witnesses who are coming before either his team or the grand jury about
1:08.1	this meeting. And there were a lot of chaotic meetings in the Trump White House.
1:11.5	This one was described as probably the most chaotic, the most unhinged. And it
1:16.2	happened about six weeks after Trump lost the election. It was this Oval Office
1:20.0	meeting where these advisors from outside the White House were essentially
1:24.2	going off against the actual attorneys inside the White House about this plan for him to seize
1:29.3	voting machines with the military basically to go back and recount the votes in the states,
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