Sources & Methods: Trump's counterterrorism plan
The NPR Politics Podcast
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🗓️ 25 May 2026
⏱️ 34 minutes
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Summary
The attack at a mosque in San Diego underscores larger problems: the rise of far right extremism and the rise of Islamophobia. But a new White House document on rising threats make no mention of right-wing extremist groups.
Host Mary Louise Kelly speaks with NPR national security correspondent Greg Myre and NPR domestic extremism correspondent Odette Yousef about what radicalized the two teens involved in the San Diego attack. They also look into the latest version of the United States Counterterrorism Strategy, which does not list far-right extremism as a threat to Americans.
Plus, an update on Iran and Cuba.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, it's Tam. Today on the show, we want to bring you the latest from our friends at NPR's National Security podcast, Sources and Methods. It's a great weekly listen every Thursday about some of the big issues in the intelligence community, hosted by NPR's Mary Louise Kelly. If you like it, give them a follow on the NPR app. And we'll be back in your feeds tomorrow |
| 0:22.4 | as normal. Here's Mary Louise. The attack in San Diego this week has been an illustration of the |
| 0:31.6 | dangers of not paying attention to violent far-right extremism. If you're trying to wrap your |
| 0:36.9 | head around NatSEC priorities, under the Trump administration, |
| 0:40.6 | there are worse places to start than the brand new just unveiled document United States |
| 0:46.3 | counterterrorism strategy. |
| 0:48.4 | Among other things, it focuses on the threat from violent left-wing extremists. |
| 0:53.5 | This is sources and methods from NPR. |
| 0:57.7 | I'm Mary Louise Kelly. |
| 0:59.2 | It's Thursday, which means on this podcast, |
| 1:01.4 | we are diving into the week's biggest national security stories |
| 1:04.7 | with NPR reporters who are out in the world covering them. |
| 1:07.9 | Two of our finest here this week here in the studio with me, |
| 1:10.7 | NPR National Security correspondent, Greg Myrie. Welcome back. in the world covering them. Two of our finest here this week here in the studio with me and PR |
| 1:11.2 | national security correspondent Greg Meiery. Welcome back. Hey, thanks Mary Louise. And Odette Yusuf, |
| 1:17.6 | who reports on extremism for NPR from her home base in Chicago. Odette, welcome back. |
| 1:24.2 | Glad to be here. Hey, so it is just afternoon here on this somewhat gloomy Thursday in Washington. |
| 1:31.6 | Odette, I'm thinking last time you were on the podcast was back in November, and now we're |
| 1:36.4 | practically on summer and Memorial Day is looming. |
| 1:39.4 | Time flies. |
| 1:40.4 | It does. |
| 1:41.1 | Yeah. |
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