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The NPR Politics Podcast

Sources & Methods: Navy cartel strike, China's power flex

The NPR Politics Podcast

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Politics, Daily News, News

4.524.9K Ratings

🗓️ 6 September 2025

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

Today, we're sharing another episode from NPR's newest podcast, Sources & Methods. Each Thursday, host Mary Louise Kelly breaks down the week's biggest national security news with NPR's team of reporters covering the military, State Department, and spy agencies. NPR correspondents stationed around the world also join the conversation. 

This episode: Pentagon correspondent Tom Bowman and international correspondent Anthony Kuhn discuss the Trump administration's use of the military against South American drug cartels, and unpack the geopolitical significance of an historic gathering with the leaders of China, Russia, and North Korea. 

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0:00.0

Support for NPR and the following message come from the Walton Family Foundation, working to create access to opportunity for people and communities by tackling tough social and environmental problems.

0:12.0

More information is at waltonfamilyfoundation.org.

0:20.2

I'm Tamara Keith here with a Saturday bonus episode for you.

0:24.2

It's the most recent episode of NPR's National Security podcast, Sources and Methods,

0:29.7

where NPR reporters who cover the military, state department, and spy agencies break down

0:35.1

the biggest Nats sec news of the week. We're going to share these episodes

0:39.3

each Saturday for a couple of weeks because their show is a lot like ours, and we think you'll

0:43.9

like it. You might even hear us on there from time to time. New episodes drop every Thursday,

0:49.4

and you can follow the show wherever you listen to this one. So here you go, sources and methods, the new

0:55.3

national security podcast from NPR. So I was talking to this U.S. official I've known for years,

1:02.4

and he said, this is a new way ahead. And I said, you guys aren't going to shoot on the land

1:08.9

in Venezuela, are you? He wouldn't answer, but he said, this will continue.

1:14.1

The might of the U.S. military trained against South American drug cartels,

1:19.9

as three men, the leaders of U.S. adversaries, rivals China, Russia, and North Korea,

1:26.8

stand shoulder to shoulder for the very first time.

1:29.7

This is sources and methods from NPR.

1:34.9

I'm Mary Louise Kelly. Every Thursday, we discuss the biggest national security stories of the week.

1:40.7

I do that with my colleagues from NPR's NETSEC team covering the military, the state

1:45.8

department, the intelligence community, and also with NPR international correspondence stationed

1:51.5

around the world. Today, that is Anthony Kuhn. He's here in the middle of the night for him,

1:56.9

13 hours ahead of us in Seoul, South Korea, his home base reporting on the region.

2:03.1

Anthony, good evening, good morning.

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