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The NPR Politics Podcast

President Trump Asks Supreme Court To Uphold Tariffs

The NPR Politics Podcast

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Politics, Daily News, News

4.524.9K Ratings

🗓️ 8 September 2025

⏱️ 17 minutes

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Summary

President Trump has asked the U.S. Supreme Court to uphold his authority to issue tariffs under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act. We discuss the implications of a possible ruling — if the court strikes down his tariffs and if it says Trump’s tariffs are legal.

This episode: political correspondent Ashley Lopez, White House correspondent Danielle Kurtzleben, and senior national political correspondent Mara Liasson.

This podcast was produced by Casey Morell & Bria Suggs, and edited by Rachel Baye.

Our executive producer is Muthoni Muturi.

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0:24.2

Hi, this is Tracy from Livermore, California.

0:27.0

I just submitted my first job application since becoming a stay-at-home mom 11 years ago.

0:31.7

This podcast was recorded at...

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123 p.m. Eastern Time on Monday, September 8th, 2025.

0:37.8

Things may have changed by the time you hear it. Like, I might have to start wearing something other than yoga pants again.

0:42.8

Okay. Enjoy the show.

0:48.1

Wow. Congratulations. Big life change. And good luck also. Yeah. Good luck. Hey there. it's the NPR Politics podcast. I'm Ashley Lopez. I cover politics.

0:57.5

I'm Danielle Kurtzleben. I cover the White House. And I'm Mara Liason, senior national political correspondent.

1:03.3

And today on the show, will the Supreme Court let President Trump continue with his current tariff policy?

1:09.2

Danielle, a federal appeals court recently ruled that some of

1:11.9

Trump's tariffs are illegal. Can you catch us up, though, on how we got here? All right, let's start

1:16.7

with the very basics. This term, Trump has imposed a lot of tariffs. We all know this. And there are

1:21.5

two main types of tariffs he has imposed. There are tariffs on specific goods, like his aluminum and

1:27.4

steel tariffs, automobiles.

1:29.2

Those are called Section 232 tariffs. That's named for the particular part of a particular

1:33.6

law that authorizes them. We're going to set those aside. Those are not the ones we're talking about

1:38.2

here. The other types of tariffs he's imposed are on different countries' goods. So those are

1:43.6

authorized under the International

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