Soumaya Keynes and Megan Reiss on Trade and National Security Under the Trump Administration
The Lawfare Podcast
The Lawfare Institute
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🗓️ 8 June 2018
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
Economic welfare and national security have never been mutually exclusive, but trade has factored into the national security discourse prominently in recent days, with the administration announcing tariffs on steel and aluminum imports in the name of national security, the backlash from American allies, and the current standoff with China. On Thursday, June 7, Shannon Mercer sat down with Megan Reiss, senior national security fellow with the R Street Institute, and Soumaya Keynes, economics and trade correspondent at The Economist, to discuss the ins and outs of trade law and how Trump is using it.
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| 0:29.0 | Give and everything we've seen, given the conflicting agendas within the Trump administration, |
| 0:39.0 | there are some people who just want to agree a quick deal and have all of this trade stuff go away. |
| 0:44.0 | There are others who are much more hawkish and say, |
| 0:47.0 | no, there are these really fundamental issues, China's industrial policy. |
| 0:51.0 | We really need them to have this wholesale change in their economic strategy before we'll agree anything. |
| 0:56.0 | So it's that second group that if they win, we could go all the way. |
| 1:01.0 | We could get these tariffs. |
| 1:02.0 | They've really been trying to keep these issues separate. |
| 1:05.0 | They've been claiming that this is a trade issue and that that's the other stuff. |
| 1:08.0 | But I'm not sure geopolitics works like that. |
| 1:12.0 | If you are in a situation where you've got $150 billion worth of trade affected by tariffs, |
| 1:19.0 | I think it could make things pretty difficult. |
| 1:22.0 | I'm Shannon Tagawa-Merser and this is the Law Fair Podcast, June 9, 2018. |
| 1:28.0 | Economic, welfare, and national security have never been mutually exclusive. |
| 1:33.0 | But trade is factored into the national security discourse prominently in recent days. |
| 1:38.0 | With the administration announcing tariffs on steel and aluminum imports in the name of national security, |
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