Souls and Goals and Roles
Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak
Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak
4.8 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 27 January 2026
⏱️ 51 minutes
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Summary
A theme of unconscious irritation suggests the podcast is entering its red period with Idiopathic Rosacea and Iatrogenic Eustachian Tube Dysfunction as the new hosts. Kate texts her doctor throughout the episode. Jacqueline’s secret merchandizing history reveals she’d rather be in Quadrant 2. One must live with some altitudinous awareness. Mel Brooks, Teresa of Avila, Caroline Myss, and Diana Vreeland.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi guys, it's us. This is what you might call an ad, a little pre-roll in the jargon of the biz. |
| 0:07.1 | And we're here, yeah, to annoy you with an ad that isn't the content. Why? So we can remind you the importance, the honor, the glory, the humility of joining premium, becoming a premium subscriber. |
| 0:19.6 | When you show us with cash that you enjoy the show, |
| 0:23.4 | we bring something to your life, who the hell knows, we're a community here. As you know, |
| 0:28.0 | and as you very well know, we are now, we're independent, we do this all ourselves, we are producing |
| 0:33.2 | the show. We have no suits. We have no big, you know, the headquarters. They're gone. It's just us. |
| 0:40.2 | We're the headquarters. So every dollar that you give us goes directly into the show. You are a |
| 0:45.4 | producer of the show when you become a subscriber. So enjoy this episode and please go to |
| 0:50.2 | berlantnovac.supercast.com and become a subscriber. |
| 0:57.0 | Two best friends both alike in dignity, nurturing phantoms and courting the muse. |
| 1:02.0 | The hag divines when something must die. |
| 1:04.3 | Yes, that was poog. |
| 1:05.4 | But this is huge. |
| 1:07.0 | The ego loves to seek, but never to find. |
| 1:09.8 | It was Berlant and Novak the whole time. |
| 1:14.1 | You know what's strange is I will not be submitting my face to the public today. |
| 1:21.7 | By the way, hi. |
| 1:22.4 | Hi. |
| 1:23.3 | I come to you with a new affliction. |
| 1:26.8 | It starts with an R. It starts with an R. |
| 1:28.6 | It ends with an A. |
| 1:30.2 | Rosacea. |
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