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Transforming Trauma

Soul Death and the Reclamation of the Soul - Healing Complex Trauma in Africa with Wangui Wanjiru

Transforming Trauma

Brad Kammer

Self-improvement, Mental Health, Health & Fitness, Education

4.6140 Ratings

🗓️ 15 April 2020

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

"The one thing I love about NARM is that it's empowering. It helps you realize that there's so much power in you. It returns your agency. The power of agency is that you let go of the helplessness." -Wangui Wanjiru

Host Sarah Buino and her guest Wangui Wanjiru, a Kenyan clinical psychologist and the first NARM Therapist on the African continent, seek to humanize the culturally-specific challenges of complex trauma care in Africa.

Wangui describes the cultural orientation that's very present in Kenyan culture, a strong focus on the group over the individual.  She says people don't personalize themselves or each other outside of sweeping social categories. And when people do acknowledge their individuality, they are labeled as "selfish". 

While painting the picture of how more communal based cultures work against the individual's connection with themself, Wangui describes the bind that comes with the desire to remain in connection with your culture.

Sarah and Wangui talk about what they've learned in their NARM Training-- that when someone is more connected with themselves, they actually have more capacity to be connected with others, their community, and their culture. Paradoxically, reconnecting with the self, which pushes against the Kenyan social construct of "the group over the individual", will actually allow for more connection with the Kenyan culture as a whole. 

Wangui brings up an important question: What are we gaining from losing touch with ourselves?

And then Sarah and Wangui go even further in their discussion, reflecting on the impacts of racial oppression and cultural trauma, to ask: Who is benefiting from people losing touch with their individuality?

Sarah prompts Wangui to share what it has been like to bring NARM to Africa and applying the NARM approach to her work with her clients. 

They discuss whether healing trauma is possible as cultures are still currently living through trauma: How can one transform trauma amidst ongoing trauma and oppression? 

"The beauty of reclaiming your self is that when issues come, or even though you're still living within the trauma, these issues don't come to an empty soul, or they don't come to a dead soul.  They're coming to a soul that can resist and choose what gets in and what does not get in. And that's the empowering part of it. Yes, people might be continuing to go through trauma, but as long as the software within themselves is different, you're giving them the virus protection. It's not about getting people out of trauma, it's not about let's do this treatment after the trauma is done, it's letting empower people as they're going through trauma so they will carry less of it."

 

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The NARM Training Institute provides tools for transforming complex trauma through: in-person and online trainings for mental health care professionals; in-person and online workshops on complex trauma and how it interplays with areas like addiction, parenting, and cultural trauma; an online self-paced learning program, the NARM Inner Circle; and other trauma-informed learning resources.  

For the full show notes including references, podcast episodes mentioned, and a quick glossary of terms, visit us at http://www.narmtraining.com/transformingtrauma

This episode was edited by The Creative Impostor Studios.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello there. Welcome to the Transforming Trauma Podcast, a complex trauma podcast through the

0:11.5

NARM Training Institute. My name is Sarah Bueno and I am a psychotherapist here in Chicago and

0:17.4

currently in NARM student and I am so excited to share this podcast with you all.

0:24.3

Transforming Trauma is presented by the NARM Training Institute. The Institute offers

0:28.6

NARM practitioner trainings for mental health professionals who are looking for advanced

0:32.7

training in complex post-traumatic stress disorder. The neuro-effective relational model is a cutting-edge,

0:38.4

innovative approach for resolving C-PTSD, addressing attachment, developmental, relational,

0:44.2

and intergenerational trauma.

0:49.0

Today's guest is somebody that I'm really excited to share with you. I met Wango-i-Wanjero when we were doing

0:56.1

the norm training in Chicago in, I think it was September. And I was just so drawn to her. I'm

1:03.8

really excited to share this conversation with you today. I also wanted to let you know that we had a little

1:09.2

bit of technical difficulties.

1:14.6

It's not easy connecting with somebody around the world.

1:16.2

Wango is actually in Kenya.

1:21.2

So just wanted to let you note that the audio isn't quite the quality that we hoped for,

1:23.7

but I couldn't let you miss out on this conversation.

1:25.5

So let me tell you about Wangoie.

1:28.2

She says, I'm a mental health and behavioral medicine therapist. I practice in the fields of clinical psychology with an interest in complex and shock trauma.

1:34.1

I'm currently working as a psychosocial counselor with torture survivors, developing a treatment

1:39.2

program for survivors of sexual trauma, and I'll soon be leading the complex trauma division

1:43.7

of the Traumatic

1:44.5

Stress Society of Kenya.

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