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SOTS 2nd Hour: Jeremy Siegel, Crypto’s Newest Lobbying Effort, Outlook for Pharam M&A 12/24/25

Squawk on the Street

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4.1567 Ratings

🗓️ 24 December 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Wharton School Professor Jeremy Siegel reacts to this morning’s jobless claims number, plus lays out some under the radar risk to the market. Then Crypto’s latest lobbying effort isn’t such a new idea. A look at the industry’s push into hospitality. And a multi-billion-dollar deal in pharma. The outlook for M&A and some names to watch. Squawk on the Street Disclaimer

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0:00.0

Good Wednesday morning. Welcome to Squawk on the street. I'm Carl Kintania with Melissa Lee here at Post 9 of the New York Stock Exchange.

0:05.3

Sarah and David are off today. Got a shortened Christmas Eve trading session with markets in the green. Dow's up almost 90 points. Nasdaq trying to get out of the red. Most sectors are positive. A little bit of weakness in communication services, consumer discretionary. Treasury's

0:21.1

well-behaved on an area where, man, rate volatility has come way down, 10 years still in that

0:27.0

range around 4.15. In a few moments, Wharton Professor Jeremy Siegel joins us with what he says

0:32.1

are two potential roadblocks that might slow the market rally. Moody's Mark Zandi will give us

0:37.0

his reaction to jobless

0:38.1

claims today pretty good and why he believes economic growth right now is fragile. Plus, a deal in

0:44.2

the pharma space, Sanofi buying vaccine maker Dynavacs. We'll talk about whether we could see more deals

0:49.4

in that space in the new year. Let's begin, though, with this morning's initial jobless claims number.

0:54.2

Better than expected, $214,000 for what this all means for stocks.

0:58.2

Let's bring in Jeremy Siegel, Wisdom Tree, Chief Economist and Warden School Professor of Finance.

1:02.9

Jeremy, great to see you. Happy holidays.

1:05.3

Thank you.

1:06.5

Labor market still doesn't give you too many things to worry about in claims, although yesterday

1:12.3

people were looking at conference board job differential and what that might mean for, I don't

1:17.6

know, the prospect of a jobless expansion, let's say. Yeah, the sweet spot for jobless claims,

1:23.5

you know, is between 200,000 and 240. We have just been there virtually every week, which is really, you know, shows, you know,

1:33.5

not an overheating labor in the market to say the least, but one that is certainly not deteriorating

1:38.9

and, you know, setting us up for potentially good 2026.

1:43.5

Do you think a more dovesh rate environment can unwind some of the job

1:49.7

loss that might come from technology? Yeah. I mean, I think we should be in the low threes on the

1:58.0

Fed funds rate. I mean, we really had a good inflation report, and I don't

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