Welcome to indoctrination, a weekly conversation series about protecting yourself from systems of control.

I'm your host, Rachel Bernstein.

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Sarah Landry is on the show again today.

This is her third time speaking with us.

I've been in touch with her, and she let me know that there have been some new developments

that she wanted to be able to let some people know about.

I have heard a lot of feedback from her interviews on the show, and people were kind of curious to see if the law was

going to catch up with her former guru, Netanyanda. So here's an update from Sarah. And then after,

during the one more thing before you go,

I'll be talking to you about the apologies you should accept and the ones you should not.

Here's Sarah.

So I really want to thank Sarah for joining me today for this third time that we're talking.

And I wanted to also say that if people haven't had an opportunity to do so, to recognize the artisan that Sarah is and that she has wonderful jewelry that she makes. And I was just mentioning that to her. So if you can,

if you can repeat what you said to me about being able to appreciate colors after your experience. I don't mean in any way

to come off as judgmental of the actual Sanya's tradition, like where Indian renunciants and their

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