Sorry, Charlie

Small Town Dicks

Audio 99

True Crime, Society & Culture, History

4.7 • 10K Ratings

🗓️ 23 June 2023

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

When forensic specialist Paul Holes arrives at the scene of a violent attack, he immediately collects and compares all the evidence to build a case against the attacker. What he finds both shocks and surprises him - and teaches him a lesson that he still teaches budding investigators today.

Guest: Forensic Specialist Paul Holes

Paul Holes is a bestselling author, podcaster, television host and retired cold-case investigator with the sheriff’s and district attorney’s offices in California’s Contra Costa County. In his 27 years as an investigator, Holes used his behavioral and forensic expertise in such notable cases as the Zodiac murders, Golden State Killer, and Jaycee Lee Dugard kidnapping. In May 2022, Holes published “Unmasked: My Life Solving America's Cold Cases” - which became an instant New York Times bestseller. Paul teamed with the FBI and Sacramento DA to help identify Joseph DeAngelo as the Golden State Killer, the most prolific serial predator in U.S. history. In 2019, he teamed up with Oxygen to host ”The DNA of Murder with Paul Holes” and in 2022 he launched a new original series with HLN called, ”Real Life Nightmare with Paul Holes.”

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0:00.0	The future is unpredictable at times that the Open University are the experts in
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0:26.0	The Open University, it's Yardley. How are you guys? I hope you're all well and thriving. We have a great case for you today
0:48.3	Great not only because it comes to us from Paul holes, but great because there is a twist near the end that will have you cheering in the car or
0:59.4	the kitchen, walking the dog, wherever you listen to your podcasts.
1:05.0	Also everything about this episode is right up Paul's CSI alley
1:10.7	from Bloodspatter telling a story to profiling the suspect and it's a cautionary tale.
1:19.0	So I had a listener call me out in a good way on Instagram a few weeks ago.
1:24.0	She had just listened to the episode we did in season two called Stocked,
1:29.0	where I described a time I was stalked by a guy who was doing some work on the house I lived in at the time.
1:35.0	I remember feeling so much guilt and shame back then for finding myself in a suddenly dangerous and unmanageable situation.
1:44.0	I also remember, even as my intuition was screaming at me,
1:49.0	things are going off the rails,
1:51.0	that I felt compelled to be polite to my stalker.
1:57.2	So this listener who called me out, she was totally in my corner and what she wanted me to
2:02.2	know as well as every woman who's ever been
2:04.9	harassed or gotten a bad feeling about someone we don't need to be polite to the
2:11.3	predators this episode is the perfect reminder of that.
2:17.0	Finally, it's one of the last episodes we recorded with Zipper the Cat lounging on the dining room table with us.
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