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The My Phone is World or the meditation world, whatever you want to call it. It is a pretty

small place. I would say Soren Gordhammer occupies a pretty large position in this world

because he started this thing called Wisdom 2.0 which has become the largest and loudest

gathering of mindfulness and meditation types on earth. It's been featured on 60 minutes.

It's been written about all over the place. And you would think that a gathering like this

would be a reasonably uncontroversial affair. But as it turns out, actually there are, there's

plenty of controversy around it for lots of reasons, interesting reasons you will hear about

soon in this conversation. In fact, there was actually a protest on stage one year. So

Soren is interesting because of the place he occupies in this world. Also his backstory

as is the case with pretty much all of our guests we've been lucky in this way thus far

is really, really interesting. So here he is.

From ABC, this is the 10% happier podcast. I'm Dan Harris.

Well, thank you for doing this. You're welcome. It's nice to see you. Yeah, like my...

I forgot how tall you are. How tall are you? Almost six four. Wow. Like six three and three four.

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