you do get bored of your bullshit. And that's the point where you're like, I'm ready to change.

That's the coolest part. Like, that's empowering. When you have to repeat the sad, sad story one more

time, and you just can't be bothered. You're like, oh, how many more times?

Hey there. I'm Matt Diavella and welcome to my short form podcast, Three Rules. Each episode, I ask a guest to share three rules that help them find success and happiness.

Today, I'm joined by Sorrel Amor, a creator and entrepreneur who's amassed more than 120 million views on YouTube.

From creating courses to teaching photography and building a career that blends creativity and financial freedom,

Sorrel has become a leader in helping others achieve their own independence.

So excited to have you on the show.

Thank you so much for having me.

Yeah.

Glass from the past.

Haven't seen each other for years.

I know.

I think, do we meet for the first time in Sydney?

Many years ago, very connected in like the creator space. Like, how does it feel to be

now an OG YouTuber? How cool is that? Yeah. I don't know if you feel it. I love it. Yeah.

I remember looking at OG YouTubers and I was like, man, they're cool. There's, I'm not going to,

I can't speak about myself here, but I look at OG YouTubers and I look at them with

respect. You guys have been doing it for so long to know that there's YouTubers out there that

I've been doing it for years and years and years and there's still people still love them.

Like that's something special and I'm not, I know that my audience has gone up and down because

I've switched angles so many times. And sometimes audiences are

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